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        • JDatSB
          JDatSB last edited by

          I did a quick search for "site:bit.ly" and it returns more than 10 million results.

          Given that bit.ly links are 301 redirects, why are they being indexed in Google and ranked according to their destination?

          I'm working on a similar project to bit.ly and I want to make sure I don't run into the same problem.

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          • Dr-Pete
            Dr-Pete Staff @JDatSB last edited by

            Given that Chrome and most header checkers (even older ones) are processing the 301s, I don't think a minor header difference would throw off Google's crawlers. They have to handle a lot.

            I suspect it's more likely that either:

            (a) There was a technical problem the last time they crawled (which would be impossible to see now, if it had been fixed).

            (b) Some other signal is overwhelming or negating the 301 - such as massive direct links, canonicals, social, etc. That can be hard to measure.

            I don't think it's worth getting hung up on the particulars of Bit.ly's index. I suspect many of these issues are unique to them. I also expect problems will expand with scale. What works for hundreds of pages may not work for millions, and Google isn't always great at massive-scale redirects.

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            • JDatSB
              JDatSB @Dr-Pete last edited by

              Here's something more interesting.

              Bitly vs tiny.cc

              I used http://web-sniffer.net/ to grab the headers of both and with bitly links, I see an HTTP Response Header of 301, followed by "Content", but with tiny.cc links I only see the header redirect.

              Two links I'm testing:

              http://bit.ly/M5onJO

              http://tiny.cc/s2i6ww

              Bitly response:

              Content (0.11 <acronym title="KibiByte = 1024 Byte">KiB</acronym>)

              
              <title></span>bit.ly<span class="tag"></title>
              
               <a< span="">href="https://twitter.com/KPLU">moved here</a<> 
              
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              • Dr-Pete
                Dr-Pete Staff @JDatSB last edited by

                I was getting 301->403 on SEO Book's header checker (http://tools.seobook.com/server-header-checker/), but I'm not seeing it on some other tools. Not worth getting hung up on, since it's 1 in 70M.

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                • JDatSB
                  JDatSB @Dr-Pete last edited by

                  I wonder why you're seeing a 403, I still see a 200.

                  http://www.wlns.com/story/24958963/police-id-adrian-woman-killed-in-us-127-crash

                  200: HTTP/1.1 200 OK

                  • Server IP Address: 192.80.13.72
                  • ntCoent-Length: 60250
                  • Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
                  • Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
                  • WN: IIS27
                  • P3P: CP="CAO ADMa DEVa TAIa CONi OUR OTRi IND PHY ONL UNI COM NAV INT DEM PRE"
                  • X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
                  • X-AspNet-Version: 4.0.30319
                  • wn_vars: CACHE_DB
                  • Content-Encoding: gzip
                  • Content-Length: 13213
                  • Cache-Control: private, max-age=264
                  • Expires: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:38:36 GMT
                  • Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:34:12 GMT
                  • Connection: keep-alive
                  • Vary: Accept-Encoding
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                  • Dr-Pete
                    Dr-Pete Staff @JDatSB last edited by

                    I show the second one (bit.ly/O6QkSI) redirecting to a 403.

                    Unfortunately, these are only anecdotes, and there's almost no way we could analyze the pattern across 70M indexed pages without a massive audit (and Bitly's cooperation). I don't see anything inherently wrong with their setup, and if you noticed that big of a jump (10M - 70M), it's definitely possible that something temporarily went wrong. In that case, it could take months for Google to clear out the index.

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                    • JDatSB
                      JDatSB @Dr-Pete last edited by

                      I looked at all 3 redirects and they all showed a single 301 redirect to a 200 destination for me.  Do you recall which one was a 403?

                      Looking at my original comment in the question, last month bit.ly had 10M results and now I'm seeing 70M results, which means there was a [relatively] huge increase with indexed shortlinks.

                      I also see 1000+ results for "mz.cm" which doesn't seem much strange, since mz.cm is just a CNAME to the bitly platform.

                      I found another URL shortner which has activity, http://scr.im/ and I only saw the correct pages being indexed by Google, not the short links.  I wonder if the indexing is particular to bitly and/or the IP subnet behind bitly links.

                      I looked at another one, bit.do, and their shortlinks are being indexed.  Back to square 1.

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                      • Dr-Pete
                        Dr-Pete Staff last edited by

                        One of those 301s to a 403, which is probably thwarting Google, but the other two seem like standard pages. Honestly, it's tough to do anything but speculate. It may be that so many people are linking to or sharing the short version that Google is choosing to ignore the redirect for ranking purposes (they don't honor signals as often as we like to think). It could simply be that some of them are fairly freshly created and haven't been processed correctly yet. It could be that these URLs got indexed when the target page was having problems (bad headers, down-time, etc.), and Google hasn't recrawled and refreshed those URLs.

                        I noticed that a lot of our "mz.cm" URLs (Moz's Bitly-powered short domain) seem to be indexed. In our case, it looks like we're chaining two 301s (because we made the domain move last year). It may be that something as small as that chain could throw off the crawlers, especially for links that aren't recrawled very often. I suspect that shortener URLs often get a big burst of activity and crawls early on (since that's the nature of social sharing) but then don't get refreshed very often.

                        Ultimately, on the scale of Bit.ly, a lot can happen. It may be that 70M URLs is barely a drop in the bucket for Bit.ly as well.

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                        • JDatSB
                          JDatSB @Dr-Pete last edited by

                          I spot checked a few and I noticed some are only single 301 redirects.

                          And looking at the results for site:bit.ly, some even have breadcrumbs ironically enough.

                          Here are a few examples

                          <cite class="_md">bit.ly/M5onJO</cite>‎

                          bit.ly/O6QkSI

                          bit.ly/18HZSgo

                          None of these should be indexed, but for some reason they are.

                          Presently I see 70M pages indexed for "bit.ly"

                          I see almost 600,000 results for "bitly.com"

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                          • Dr-Pete
                            Dr-Pete Staff last edited by

                            It looks like bit.ly is chaining two 301s: the first one goes to feedproxy.google.com (FeedProxy is like AdSense for feeds, I think), and then the second 301 goes to the destination site. I suspect this intermediary may be part of the problem.

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                            • KevinBudzynski
                              KevinBudzynski last edited by

                              I wasn't sure on this one, but found this on readwrite.com.

                              "Bit.ly serves up links to Calais and gets back a list of the keywords and concepts that the linked-to pages are actually about. Think of it as machine-performed auto tagging with subject keywords. This structured data is much more interesting than the mere presence of search terms in a full text search."

                              Perhaps this structured data is submitted to Google?? Any other ideas?

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