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        • justin-brock
          justin-brock last edited by

          I'd like to get some recommendations on self-paced SEO courses. They need to be online, and they need to be rather advanced.

          Moz has perks for both Distilled U and Market Motive. Has anyone gone through these? What are the differences in format, content, etc.?

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          • Market_Campus
            Market_Campus last edited by

            Our company (Market Campus) launched in the summer of 2014 and our students have had amazing success. From students who knew very little about digital marketing and wanted to start a career to companies sending their employees to be re-trained. We've been getting so much demand to launch an online solution we are getting ready to launch our first ever online course. You can check out our pricing options by clicking here.

            The issue we found with many of the popular online courses out there is there is zero direction. They are pricey subscriptions packed with content and no path for the user. Our course was designed specifically with a path that we've designed to take you to beginner to pro. The reviews and feedback we've received has been awesome.

            It really is an amazing program and takes an entirely new (and much more effective) approach to teaching digital marketing. If you have any questions shoot us an email at [email protected]

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            • paul-bold
              paul-bold last edited by

              Hey Justin,

              I went through Market Motive and I Loved it. I had what I though a decent understanding of SEO but my knoledge now in comparison is next level.

              Content is great! They really explain everything well in all their video modules. The quick quiz's are nice to make sure I'v learnt the key concepts. In my opinion their content is very to date consider the ever changing world of SEO. You'll find a few inconsistencies VS. new best practice but for the most part it's very accurate.

              I can't speak for distilled but it's a huge plus to have OMCP certification after passing the final test. Great thing to use for clients and email signatures.

              I just got my first Audit + Ongoing client and I couldn't have done it without their training.

              Hope that helps!

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              • RobMay
                RobMay last edited by

                Hey Justin,

                I've done the complete DistilledU training. It's advanced in sections and at times, very basic. It's pretty much covers everything tho. It's very much learn at your own pace, as is MarketMotive and I have all my strategists or consultants work through Distilled and Moz as part of the their training for in house work. I don't know anyone who has done the Market Motive courses, but I can tell you after spending a little more time on it today, that I will be going through and possibly ordering it. We are also HubSpot certified as an agency so many of these certifications would benefit that tie we have with their products.

                My guess, the advanced training you would be looking for - would be MarketMotive.com as I am looking at it myself for our agency and our teams! That's my 2 cents 😉 I plan on getting budgets set aside and getting it all lined up. I'm sold and going to move it into the pipeline.

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                • Andy.Drinkwater
                  Andy.Drinkwater last edited by

                  I had a look at Distilled U and while it caters for all levels, there is a fair bit of advanced content. I was under the impression that there was a free trial for this, but could be wrong.

                  i can only speak for this, but I found it well paced with good examples and explanations.

                  -Andy

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