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        • NewBuilder
          NewBuilder last edited by

          How do you visualize a website structure in terms of (categories of) pages and interlinking. I use such visuals for discussing what you are actually doing now and what can be improved. I have made visuals I few times myself (basically making boxes representing categories of pages and lines representing internal links), but I found that I soon ran into a scheme of huge proportions and needed more paper and more time. Appreciate your thoughts!

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          • PopTop
            PopTop last edited by

            DYNO Mapper is great at visualizing a website's structure. It is the best Sitemap Generator that I have used because it also performs a content audit and includes Google Analytics integration. It's pretty sweet how you can sort and filter pages based on Google Analytics metrics. If you are looking for a great discovery and planning tool I would give it a try.

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            • katjaka
              katjaka @dephelis last edited by

              I played around with Cytoscape and I'd definitely be interested of the spreadsheet as well!

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              • swissseo
                swissseo last edited by

                Online-Tool diagramly (free) You can Save it as XML, JPG, PNG and SVG.
                Or Lovely Charts (not free), but you can put in text-Sitemaps for a "Autovisualisation".

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                • firstconversion
                  firstconversion last edited by

                  I print it out and lay it out on a large table in the office. Just seeing it visually lets me get to grips with it a lot easier than scrolling through unconnected pages on a screen.

                  Print small and get a big table and you can fit a large sitemap there 😉 Get a lot of A4s and some scissors and tape and you will be surprised how much better your understanding is by the time you've finished

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                  • dannypenrose
                    dannypenrose last edited by

                    I'm a big fan of Smart draw but just recently had a colleague share a chart with me via Google Docs which appeared to work very well for creating a flow chart and mapping out site structure.

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                    • dlrPaul
                      dlrPaul last edited by

                      Pidoco is a smart collaborative wireframe / GUI design tool. Could be worth a look. Alternatively if you're looking for free, Gliffy is good.

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                      • Marcus_Miller
                        Marcus_Miller last edited by

                        Open Office Draw is free and has a series of flow chart icons but it's a manual job and takes a bit of getting used to (price is right though). Anything like this falls apart for larger sites though as you would be there all week.

                        Would love to know if there is a firm favourite amongst people as it's certainly helpful to visualise interlinking and structure.

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                        • Ontarioseo
                          Ontarioseo @NickPateman81 last edited by

                          Damien, I'd be interested in taking a look at this as well, if you're OK sending it over to me. We used to use a profiler program that now seems to be dead.

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                          • DaveSottimano
                            DaveSottimano last edited by

                            You can also download a trial of Black Widow - http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0-.html?query=black+widow&searchtype=downloads&tag=opensearch

                            Once you've scanned a site, it builds a site architecture that looks like Windows Explorer. You can take screen shots and place them in your documents as needed.

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                            • dephelis
                              dephelis @NickPateman81 last edited by

                              Glad to.

                              I'm in the middle of rewriting the macro at the moment as my first attempt was a tad on the slow side. I can skype it across to you when I finish it (today or tomorrow).

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                              • NickPateman81
                                NickPateman81 @dephelis last edited by

                                This sounds like a great idea. I'm certainly interested in seeing how you handle the Xenu data if you're willing to share!

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                                • dephelis
                                  dephelis last edited by

                                  I'm currently using a combination of (mainly free) apps to map my company's website to visualise link flow and indentify isolated content that hasn't been correctly linked in.

                                  I start with a site crawl using Xenu's Link Sleuth from which I can export a list of all pages as well as a list of all the links. I import the two lists into Excel where the data gets cleaned and additional information extracted by a macro.  The final step is to import the link and page data in Cytoscape which performs the visualisation.

                                  Don't be fooled by the biological focus of Cytoscape, it will work with any data as long as it's broken down into nodes (pages) and edges (links). It incorporates a number of visualisation algorithms, and allows you to filter a selection of nodes which can then be copied to a subnetwork and visualised separately.

                                  It handles our small site of 2k pages and 50k internal links with ease, and I know a geneticist who uses it to map networks of over 7k genes with some 300k interactions.

                                  If you're interested, I can provide a copy of the spreadsheet I use for manipulating the raw Xenu data.

                                  1. http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html

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                                  • voitenkos
                                    voitenkos last edited by

                                    ProtoShare.com is the best tool of that kind for me

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                                    • NewBuilder
                                      NewBuilder @NickPateman81 last edited by

                                      Thanks Nick, really handy, appreciate it.

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                                      • Pavlicko
                                        Pavlicko last edited by

                                        I like using post-its, but that can get ridiculous as well. Here is one of my faves for mind-mapping, and it's completely free: https://bubbl.us -

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                                        • NickPateman81
                                          NickPateman81 last edited by

                                          Apart from everything mentioned already - bubbl.us is a great free online tool that lets you save and export your visualisations.

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                                          • Lumin
                                            Lumin @MontanaFlynn83 last edited by

                                            You might want to check out this link, which works for new versions of Omigraffe.

                                            Let me know what you think.

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                                            • MikeTek
                                              MikeTek @bergman last edited by

                                              I hadn't noticed that - shame, could have been interesting if they kept up development.

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                                              • bergman
                                                bergman @MikeTek last edited by

                                                I checked out WriteMaps, and it was very very nice for small sites.  It is a pity that it does not seem to be maintained anymore.  Last communication from the creator seems to be from 2009.  😞

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                                                • bergman
                                                  bergman @MikeTek last edited by

                                                  I checked out WriteMaps, and it was very very nice for small sites.  It is a pity that it does not seem to be maintained anymore.  Last communication from the creator seems to be from 2009.  😞

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                                                  • elephantseo
                                                    elephantseo @ninjamarketer last edited by

                                                    Smart Draw is seriously awesome; just downloaded for a 7 day free trial. I used Mockingbird in the past but SD looking way better now.

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                                                    • MikeTek
                                                      MikeTek last edited by

                                                      I'm a little late to the party (just trying out the new Q&A for the first time).

                                                      I was looking for a solution myself yesterday and found two free ones that, while definitely not as full-featured as those shared by ninjamarketer, might do the trick.

                                                      WriteMaps is a nifty tool (free to use) that looks to have some potential.

                                                      SlickMap is an HTML/CSS template you can use to add up to three levels of hierarchy, and it looks pretty sharp (though it's clearly not as quick/convenient as some of the other tools).

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                                                      • semvibe
                                                        semvibe last edited by

                                                        I use Visio to start with and when I go in to more details in terms of pages, I use https://gomockingbird.com/

                                                        This allows me to share the drawings easily.

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                                                        • NicoleMunoz
                                                          NicoleMunoz @DonnieCooper last edited by

                                                          Another vote for Smartdraw!

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                                                          • MontanaFlynn83
                                                            MontanaFlynn83 last edited by

                                                            I'll use the mac software omnigraffle to chart out my site.  Also someone came up with a cool applescript that will take a regular xml sitemap and turn it into omnigraffle.

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                                                            • ninjamarketer
                                                              ninjamarketer @NewBuilder last edited by

                                                              Great.Thanks

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                                                              • ninjamarketer
                                                                ninjamarketer @Getz.pro last edited by

                                                                Sure. Your welcome.

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                                                                • NewBuilder
                                                                  NewBuilder @ninjamarketer last edited by

                                                                  Thanks Sameer, I will check these out.

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                                                                  • Dan-Petrovic
                                                                    Dan-Petrovic last edited by

                                                                    I have used PowerMapper and am relatively happy with it. It fails miserably on large scale websites. I've spent days researching website structure visualistion and found that there are no rubust industry strength solutions out there available to general community. We're in the process of writing our own software for that reason.

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                                                                    • goodnewscowboy
                                                                      goodnewscowboy last edited by

                                                                      Hey Jos: I use a vector based drawing program (CorelDraw) and draw boxes with lines like you. I can highlight main pages by border thickness and colors.

                                                                      It's probably not nearly as elegant as  Sameer's suggestions, but I've used it for so many years, it's as comfortable as a pair of old jeans

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                                                                      • DonnieCooper
                                                                        DonnieCooper @ninjamarketer last edited by

                                                                        I second the smartdraw software.

                                                                        I've been happy with it because you can do several other things with it.

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                                                                        • Getz.pro
                                                                          Getz.pro @ninjamarketer last edited by

                                                                          Thanks Sameer, I'll have to check these out 🙂

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                                                                          • Getz.pro
                                                                            Getz.pro last edited by

                                                                            Great question. I tend to just map it out by hand categories / sub categories / products/services but I can see how that can get quite daunting on very large sites.

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                                                                            • ninjamarketer
                                                                              ninjamarketer last edited by

                                                                              I would assume you are referring to site architecture. If this is the case then there are several good tools in market that are used by dev / designers to map out the site artchitecture or sitemaps.

                                                                              Microsoft visio http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/visio/

                                                                              Power mapper http://www.powermapper.com/

                                                                              Smart draw http://www.smartdraw.com/

                                                                              I have used smart draw for flow charts and found it lot easier to use.

                                                                              Hope this helps.

                                                                              Thanks

                                                                              Sameer

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