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        • darkmediagroup
          darkmediagroup last edited by

          Hello,

          I got an affiliate program on my website, that redirects the affiliate link to the main site like:

          site.com/ads/aff_code/  ->  site.com/ (The redirect is done using a 301 status code.)

          On the redirect process the site stores a cookie to track the affiliate sale.

          • Will Google and others SE follow this permanent redirect, transferring the relevance of this affiliate link to my main site? In other words, if an affiliate does something wrong (like spams), does the bad reputation will be transferred to my main site?
          • Is there a better way to do that from a SEO standpoint?

          Thanks,

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          • fablau
            fablau @Everett last edited by

            Wonderful, thank you Everett.

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            • Everett
              Everett @fablau last edited by

              I'll mark this as answered and will head over to the newer thread.

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              • fablau
                fablau @Everett last edited by

                Thank you Everett, good points!

                I have opened another thread on this topic (I didn't expect you to reply on this old one!) where I am discussing about possible solutions for inbound affiliate links:

                https://a-moz.groupbuyseo.org/community/q/affiliate-links-dilemma

                It looks like my best solution would be to leave the way it is, maybe changing 301 redirects with 302? How would you suggest tackling this issue... or would you suggest just "ignoring" and leave the way we all have done, with a simple 301 redirect to the "clean" URL?

                Thank you again.

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                • Everett
                  Everett @fablau last edited by

                  Fabrizo,

                  It was a good point for you to bring up. The truth is, I don't know what Google's stance is on stuff like this these days because they constantly change it and you can read opposing things straight from Google in two or more different places. Also, I don't think Google cares about the user as much as they say when it comes to our sites because they make it difficult for us to rank well while also providing rich JS-based, interactive experiences. So thinking of the users on a big affiliate site, the best UX would be to show them the domain they're about to visit (e.g. Amazon.com) but Google doesn't like sites monetized this way (it seems) so we have to obfuscate what we're doing, which is B.S. since obviously the users like the site or they wouldn't be using it. This is all about Googlebot not keeping up with web dev technology. Maybe they should spend less time on self-driving cars and VR goggles and more time on that.

                  Personally, I would not have a bunch of href links on my site pointing to an internal folder that is blocked in the robots.txt file. I "may" use javascript links and then obfuscate the javascript somehow, but Googlebot doesn't like when you keep it from rendering JS and you'll start to see errors come up in GSC and elsewhere that you're blocking content from being rendered. Does that impact rankings? Hard to tell.

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                  • fablau
                    fablau @Everett last edited by

                    Yes, thank you Everett, I read about that, and I agree with you that that would be a bullet-proof solution.

                    I wanted just to check if what Google states now days would actually work, I couldn't see that mentioned on this thread before. But looks like you'd agree with Google on that, right?

                    Thank you again!

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                    • Everett
                      Everett @fablau last edited by

                      Fabrizo,

                      I was suggesting going through an intermediate domain, as opposed to just an intermediate page. There is more protection there.

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                      • fablau
                        fablau last edited by

                        I know this is a rather old thread, butI am wondering if anything is changed since this topic was discussed.

                        I see Google suggesting redirecting links to an intermediate page blocked by robots.txt to avoid schemes penalties:

                        https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66356?hl=en

                        Ideas on that?

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                        • darkmediagroup
                          darkmediagroup last edited by

                          It is clear to me now.

                          At the moment, I changed the redirect to 302 and blocked the /ads/ folder on the robots.txt. But I will surely proceed setting up a new domain for the affiliate traffic.

                          Thanks,

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                          • Everett
                            Everett last edited by

                            Hello Henrique,

                            2. I mean putting /ads/ on a totally separate domain (e.g. youraffiliateprogram.com/ads/) which then redirects to yoursite.com. This way you can totally block that entire domain if you wanted to. When an affiliate links to youraffiliateprogram.com/ads/pageID the user who clicks on the link will get redirected to yoursite.com/pageID.

                            This set up has the advantage that you can block the entire affiliate program domain from being indexed in the robots.txt file if you wanted to, or you could try to use a 301 redirect and benefit from the links - until it stops working or you get penalized, at which point it you could block the affiliate program domain in the robots.txt, and/or change the redirects from 301 to a 302 rather quickly.

                            To answer your last question, yes you could simply change the redirect from a 301 to a 302 and that should solve the issue at the final landing page level, but since a lot of affiliates are still linking directly to your domain prior to getting redirected it could still cause issues. For example...

                            Affiliate A links to YourSite.com/ads/123 without using a rel nofollow tag in the link. This is still a link to your site from them, regardless of what happens next.

                            YourSite.com/ads/123 proceeds to 302 redirect the visitor to YourSite.com/123. The won't bass the pagerank on to your landing page, but it did nothing to stop the fact that you have a direct, followable affiliate link going to your site.

                            If you put in your Terms for affiliates that they have to use a nofollow tag in links to you, and you supply the nofollow tag in the code when they are "building" links from within your affiliate system, you should be ok. You may also want to block /ads/ in the robots.txt file just to be sure if you're going to take this route.

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                            • darkmediagroup
                              darkmediagroup @Everett last edited by

                              Hello,

                              1. I will add the nofollow rel to our affiliate links, but this will only solve part of the problem. Many just grab the URL and build their own links.

                              2. You mean when someone hits site.com/ads/, gets redirected to subdomain.site.com and than to my main site.com? 301 redirects won't transfer the page rank to the page they are redirecting to?

                              What about changing the status code from 301 to 302 when redirecting from site.com/ads/ to site.com? Will this transfer the page rank? Any other status code that seems more suitable in this situation, like see other (303)?

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                              • Everett
                                Everett last edited by

                                Blocking the /ads/ directory via the robots.txt file is not going to stop your site from being associated with affiliates who link to you. The best thing you can do in this case would be one of two things:

                                1. Ensure all affiliates are linking with a rel = "nofollow" attibute in the href tag (i.e. nofollow their links). You can provide the nofollow tag in the link code that they copy to make it easy for them.

                                Or

                                2. If you are trying to get some pagerank out of your affiliate links, but want to be able to react quickly in the event of a link-based penalty as a result of this practice, you could have affiliates link through another domain, which then 301 redirects to your landing page. This way you can kill off all the links simply be cutting the redirect (or changing it to a 302, or blocking Google from following the redirect with a tactic similar to the robots.txt block described above...) on the other domain instead of having to disavow a bunch of affiliate links, or instead of asking affiliates to updating their links.

                                Personally I'd go with option #1. You can combine that with the robots.txt block of your /ads/ directory too.

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                                • CleverPhD
                                  CleverPhD last edited by

                                  If you read the article I mentioned above, it really does not hide anything from Google, but you are clearly saying that these links are of no value.

                                  I would use the 301 redirect.

                                  In your case, yes that would save a step to just put /ads/ into robots.

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                                  • CleverPhD
                                    CleverPhD last edited by

                                    Google will follow a 301 and will transfer almost all the link equity/or lack of it.   Common practice is to 301 redirect through a page that is in robots.txt.  This prevents Google from following while moving the user along.

                                    More here http://makeitrank.com/affiliate-links-seo

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                                      Link Building | | Adina Laura Matei
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                                    • Andy-H

                                      Unsolved Are links from staff profile pages no longer good for SEO?

                                      link building whitehat

                                      Hey there, We run a small site that lists lawyers and we have an opportunity to ask the lawyers to display a 'badge' on their own website's staff page, linked back to the page on our site that they are listed on. Initially I thought this would be good link building (i.e. the lawyer's own staff/profile pages on their website linking to our site where they are listed = a highly relevant link). I was less concerned about the authority of the law firm's sites, though these will range from sometimes low-ish to medium. I just assumed that Google would see the value in the lawyer wanting to link to our site where they are listed. However, our SEO has said that these days Google doesn't give much/any value to these types of links from individual staff pages. His advice was to try and get the badge added to one of their service pages (or their About page) which will be unlikely as the badge is person-specific. I thought I'd ask if this was everyone else's experience regarding Google not valuing links from individual staff pages? Thanks for you help 🙂

                                      Link Building | | Andy-H
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                                    • wellandpower

                                      Value of Links? What is each link worth?

                                      Morning Everyone, I just had this thought and wondered what everyone's opinions were in terms of link value in monetary terms. We'll assume for the purposes of this that the links come from contextually relevant sites and that the sites in question have got the Moz DA from being high quality and have a good quality incoming link profile. Its a bit of a theoretical question, but i guess imagine if the only way you could get links was to pay for them, what would they be worth to you. This is link value for SEO purposes, they will have in addition value from traffic from good sites, that no doubt varies wildly depending on topic. I assume everyone also agrees on: The first link from a domain is the most valuable High DA sites are worth  more than low ones. So could anyone who has an opinion on the link value suggest a monetary value for links. Its really just using a monetary amount to see how best to target my time.  Here is my example of what might be expected, but I am hoping people with more knowledge will perhaps correct it. DA Rating    First Link  2nd-5th Link  5th-10th Link 10Plus Links 5               $5         $2            $1              $0 15               $7         $3            $2              $1 25              $25         $10            $5              $2 35               $45         $20            $7              $3 45               $65         $30            $11            $4 55               $95        $45            $19             $5 65               $200        $100            $45              $6 75               $350         $120            $65              $9 85               $700         $240            $95              $15 95               $1100         $450            $200              $30

                                      Link Building | | wellandpower
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                                    • whiteonlySEO

                                      Can affiliate links benefit or hurt my seo?

                                      I have just signed up with a company to do affiliate marketing for my site. I am now in the process of  reaching out to publishers and seeing who will publish my link on their site. Is there any benefit in terms of seo for having these links, and can there be any potential downside to these links as well?

                                      Link Building | | whiteonlySEO
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                                    • AlexLenhoff

                                      Does an external link to an image file on my site help my SEO?

                                      I found a few websites that are displaying images from my site.  Curiously, they have also linked these images to the source image file on my website.  I found these because Moz showed these sites in my list of backlinks.  I assume that means it impacts my Domain Authority.  But does this actually help me in search engines since it's not linking to a page on my site?

                                      Link Building | | AlexLenhoff
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                                    • cceebar

                                      Do links from such sites as TripAdvisor give any weight or support for SEO

                                      And what about other sites like quora or other niche forums/blogs where one might leave answers, with a link to their profile, which has a link back to the owner's website? _Cindy

                                      Link Building | | cceebar
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                                    • chaudhary0489

                                      Internal Linking - Post links vs Side Bar Links behaving differently

                                      Hi, I have a question regarding the internal linking behavior.  My website is www.hindimeaning.com  which is approx 3 years old. I have approx 450 posts. Now i have a widget on right sidebar "Popular posts". A widget below my posts "Related Posts". And a simple html CSS menu above the posts (I removed menu around 6 month before so currently it will not show.) I crawled my site with moz crawler (same are the result from google crawler as well) and it shows menus links as internal links. While sidebar widget "Popular posts" and "Related Posts" are not showing as internal links. If we talk theoretically what i learn till now is "every link on a page behaves as internal link". Then why the widget links are not showing as internal links. Thanks, Mahesh Kumar

                                      Link Building | | chaudhary0489
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                                    • Kingalan1

                                      Toxic Link Removal-Better to Pay an SEO Firm or Can I Do It Myself?

                                      Hi Jen: Recently an SEO audit from a reputable SEO firm identified almost 50% of the incoming links to my site as toxic, 40% suspicious and 5% of good quality. They are of the opinion that it is imperative to remove the toxic domains. The fee for toxic link removal is about $3,000.I would prefer to save the $3,000 but would prefer not to take the risk of screwing up my ranking if this is a complex procedure best left to SEO professionals. My assumption is that link removal will involve  identifying the toxic domains, requesting removal and eventually submitting a Google disavow request. Can I do this myself or is there a big risk of screwing it up? Assuming it is safe for me to remove toxic links, would anyone suggest  software of tools for doing so? Thanks so much.
                                      Alan

                                      Link Building | | Kingalan1
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