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        • Exotissimo
          Exotissimo last edited by

          We have several brand related domains which are parked and pointing to our main website. Some of these websites are redirecting using a 302 (don't ask, that's a whole other story), but these are being changed.

          But it shouldn't matter what type of redirect they are no? Since there has never been any traffic and they are not indexed?

          But it seems that one of them was indexed: exotravel.vn. A search for our brand name or the previous brand name (exotravel and exotissimo) brings up this parked domain first! How can that be? The domain has never been used and has no backlinks.

          exotravel.vn is redirecting and I submitted a change of address weeks ago to Google, but its still coming up first in all brand name searches for exotissimo or exotravel.

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          • donford
            donford last edited by

            Hi,

            I pointed out that Google is a web registrar to elude to the fact they can search registered domain names and return those as results. Google can WILL also use anchor text and links from any site they find a link to your site. Even if you disallow crawling via robots.txt.  If somebody is linking to you and Google finds it, and there are no more appropriate results they will return it when somebody searches those keywords.

            I would say first your main issue is the redirect. Second you must not have a strong enough keyword profile or you just launched and have not given Google enough time to get an updated SERP out. Either way fixing the redirect should be your primary focus.

            To answer your question sorry for being blunt here, the reason the parked domain is out ranking your live domain is because as far as Google is concerned it is the most relevant result. There is social media, it is registered and there is a cache of anchor text that is out ranking your live domain right now. You need to fix the redirect, build a link profile on new domain and give it time.

            It may not make much sense if you look at it from only your side. But Google isn't a magic genie that can update billions of SERPs every minute. The best thing you can do is help them help you.

            By fixing the redirect you tackle the issue 2 ways. 1. Even if Google returns your parked domain the user is sent to the correct domain. Second Google will see the redirect and index it appropriately thus removing the ranking from the parked domain.

            I hope this helps and I didn't mean to sound rude if it came off that way,

            Don

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            • Exotissimo
              Exotissimo @donford last edited by

              Hi Don, thanks for the input. The IT director had tried to point the DNS to a new web host so we can control the redirect correctly, but it doesn't seem to be propagating, thus we returned it to the default registrar redirect of a 302. Further background and context and actions below...

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              • Exotissimo
                Exotissimo last edited by

                My apologies, but while I was outlining the problem in the original post, our IT director had updated the DNS to point to a host, wherein we have placed the 301 in an htaccess file. Thats why the lookup failed... and continued to fail, so it looks like the registrar also has a propagation problem, so we returned to the default 302 redirect for now...

                The issue appears to be complex:

                The DNS registrar for .VN domains seems to have a variety of issues with their DNS hosting, not least of which is that their URL redirect entry type will only function as a 302 redirect, not a 301.

                This however does not really address the core problem. How is it that this domain is ranking first for all of our brand name searches?

                • The domain has no wayback history
                • It has never been actively used or linked to and has no backlink profile, outside of junk domain listings and the odd random backlink

                Whereas our main domain has history and a very large backlink profile, albeit inherited through a change of address and 301's from the established name which we changed November last year.

                Timeline:

                November 2014 - all is well, business as usual, good search volume, successful recovery from a manual penalty... things are looking rosy. Company plan to change domain name is activated...

                November 13th 2014 - Domain change goes ahead, all done according to guidelines with full 301s and Google Domain Name Change request

                13th November - 19th November 2014 - 40% drop in search traffic! Argghhh.

                20th November 2014 > So begins the research and recruitment of various SEO people to investigate. Nobody can see anything specific as to why the impact would be so huge as a result of the domain change. General consensus is that the following have played a part:

                • Full re-evaluation of the site according to updated Panda and Penguin algo's, results in % loss: recoverable through fixing backlink profile, technical SEO and DMCA requests.
                • Domain age and trust change would result in traffic loss, nobody has said how much or if it really happens.
                • 301 redirects have an implicit reduction in value of between 0% - 15%, depending on who you believe.

                4th January 2015 > overnight searchs for our previous and current brand names return exotravel.vn though we do not notice this for a couple of weeks. The domain itself is one of many local domains that have been parked for years and not in use.

                end Jan 2015 > We realise the indexing of all brand names is now returning exotravel.vn.

                • Feb 3rd - we set up GWT for the new domain and submit a change of address

                10th Feb > Try updating the DNS to 301, cannot do it in the regstrars DNS management, and their support is non existent/unresponsive

                17th Feb > Try pointing the domain to web host, doesn't work, DNS does not propagate. Added the 302 redirect back until FPT Telecom are back from Chinese new year holiday (they don't answer the phone and have an autoresponder saying they will be back next Tuesday! Seriously.)

                What now? Any insight appreciated as this has me completely stumped! How can this parked domain now be ranking higher than our established and publicised domains!?

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                • Exotissimo
                  Exotissimo @LynnPatchett last edited by

                  My apologies, but while I was outlining the problem, our IT director had updated the DNS. Further feedback below.

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                  • donford
                    donford last edited by

                    A couple things.

                    First Google is also a Web Registrar so they have the ability to know what domains are registered. It appears that Google has a cached version of the domain exotravel.vn indexed. It also appears to have Social Media exposure.

                    The redirect if setup is not correctly working. A ping and Whois search on http://exotravel.vn/ brings up no response from the server. Check the mxtoolbox entry here

                    Once you fix your 301 redirect issue, and have content ready for those keywords submit a site map to Google and give it some time to update.

                    Hope this helps,

                    Don

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                    • LynnPatchett
                      LynnPatchett last edited by

                      HI,

                      I doesn't look like exotravel.vn is redirecting right now, I get a 'page is not available' message so first thing to do is make sure the 301 redirect is set up and working as you expect it so that anybody clicking on that result will get to the right page. A look at the page cache shows that a coupe of days ago the site seemed to be returning normal content (it wasn't parked in other words but was actually serving html content). So between the redirect not working as expected and the site returning content until recently it is likely a bit confusing to google in regards what results it should/should not be showing for a branded search. If the redirect is implemented properly I expect the .vn site should fall out of the serps pretty quickly.

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