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        • THandorf
          THandorf last edited by

          My company's site has a large set of pages (tens of thousands) that have very thin or no content. They typically target a single low-competition keyword (and typically rank very well), but the pages have a very high bounce rate and are definitely hurting our domain's overall rankings via Panda (quality ranking).

          I'm planning on recommending we noindexed these pages temporarily, and reindex each page as resources are able to fill in content.

          My question is whether an individual page will be able to accrue any page authority for that target term while noindexed. We DO want to rank for all those terms, just not until we have the content to back it up. However, we're in a pretty competitive space up against domains that have been around a lot longer and have higher domain authorities. Like I said, these pages rank well right now, even with thin content. The worry is if we noindex them while we slowly build out content, will our competitors get the edge on those terms (with their subpar but continually available content)? Do you think Google will give us any credit for having had the page all along, just not always indexed?

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          • BlueprintMarketing
            BlueprintMarketing last edited by

            Yes, Google will give you credit for adding value to pages. You must have them crawled as a Googlebot immediately after no indexing is removed.

            Your no indexing will pass page rank of thin content could save you potentially from a penalty however if you have a better page redirected to that page using a 301.

            You will not receive the existing traffic if your ranking for that keyword at all if you noindex it. Well, you'll lose a lot of it until it's fixed.

            You will have more trouble ranking for that keyword if you remove the page from Google's index. However, if you feel your content is that thin I would recommend no indexing them if you are going to fix them. And you must be willing to fix them extremely soon. How are you going to rank for a term Organically if you no index it you will hurt it that is not currently getting traffic?

            A NoIndex tag is an instruction to the search engines that you don’t want a page to be kept within their search results. You should use this when you believe you have a page that search engines might consider being of poor quality.

            What does a noindex tag do?

            • It is a directive, not a suggestion. I.e., Google will obey it, and not index the page.
            • The page can still be crawled by Google.
            • The page can still accumulate PageRank.
            • The page can still pass PageRank via any links on the page.

            (PageRank, in reality_, there are a lot of other signals that are potentially passed through any link. Better to say “signals passed” than “PageRank passed.”)_

            Crawl frequency of a noindex page will decline over time.

            Crawl frequency refers to how often Google returns to a page to check whether the page still exists, has any changes, and has accumulated or lost signals.

            Typically crawl frequency will decline for any page that Google cannot index, for whatever reason. Google will try to recrawl a few times to check if the noindex, error, or whatever was blocking the crawl, is gone or fixed.

            If the noindex instruction remains, Google will slowly start to lengthen the time to the next attempt to crawl the page, eventually reducing to a check about every two-to-three months to see if the no index tag is still there.

            The no index page will be excluded from Google's search index, So it will not help you rank for that term unless you have other pages that are cannibalizing it and trying to rank for that term as well. If so 301 redirect the poor content page to the right content page.

            Your question on page rank and no index yes page rank can accrue Google will still read the page. They will derive some information from the hypertext inside the URLs.

            Before you remove content

            The following are some guidelines you can use:

            • Make an educated (non-biased) judgement: Is your content’s quality “worse” than this content?
            • Do you cover the topic in enough length and sufficiently in-depth?
            • Which aspects of this content is your page not covering completely?
            • Which “user intent” queries is your content not answering?
            • How can you make your content better?
            • Can you use any great imagery or diagrams to supplement your content?
            • Are there any YouTube or other videos which can add value to your content.

            Iterate and do the above for all of the pages which are outranking yours. The first few are going to be the hardest — it’s likely that the rest will follow a similar pattern.

            There are no short cuts. You’ll have to review all the pages which are outranking you to ensure you leave no gaps.

            Update Your Content To Fully Answer The User Search Query

            Once you’ve seen what you are up against, you need to update your content.

            To put it simply, your content needs to be better than the competition. It also needs to fully answer the user search intent which we have identified previously.

            Make it the BEST content out there.

            Given that you’ve already analyzed your competitors’ content, you should have a pretty good idea of what your content is missing.

            Supplement your existing content with that additional content, but

            • Don’t rewrite it completely. You’ll likely lose the precious content that Google was ranking you for.
            • Don’t write a new post with the hope that this will rank better. It’s a much longer and harder journey than pushing up your already existing content.
            • Of course, don’t change the URL.

            As discovered in this case study 468% traffic increase case study, Google will reward you for your efforts.

            Use the judgment calls from your competitive research to plan what needs to be added or updated.

            Enhance it with any missing content

            While looking at the organic keywords which you are ranking for you might come across user search intent keywords for which you have no content.

            Let’s say, for example; your content discusses enabling Joomla SEF URLs.

            If in your research you find that you are ranking for “disabling Joomla SEF URLs,” make sure that your refreshed content answers that query also.

            These queries are pure gold — make sure you are answering them

            You can see a larger version of the photos  below here

            1. http://i.imgur.com/cPpz5no.jpg
            2. http://i.imgur.com/m1MSsoh.jpg
            3. http://i.imgur.com/aqMgiWU.png

            Reference

            • http://www.hobo-web.co.uk/duplicate-content-problems/#thin-content-classifier
            • https://www.stonetemple.com/gary-illyes-what-is-noindex-and-what-does-it-do/
            • https://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/

            ** when rebuilding**

            • https://a-moz.groupbuyseo.org/learn/seo
            • https://ahrefs.com/blog/link-building/
            • https://a-moz.groupbuyseo.org/beginners-guide-to-link-building
            • http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/what-is-pagerank/

            this is similar because it addresses turning off pages and turning them back on

            • https://a-moz.groupbuyseo.org/community/q/inactive-products

            I hope this helps,

            Tom

            cPpz5no.jpg m1MSsoh.jpg aqMgiWU.png

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            • seoman10
              seoman10 last edited by

              From a Google perspective if you noindex a page sooner or later it will be removed from the index and hence you will lose your search term.

              If you have no particular need to remove the pages, create new pages with the new content (Google will like that anyway), almost certainly you will find that some of those pages will outrank the thin content pages by definition in time.
              In due course you could then 301 the old link which in theory will pass on most of the authority to the new page.

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