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        • MarketAPeel
          MarketAPeel Subscriber last edited by

          Moz is showing thousands of backlinks to my site that are not showing up on Google Search Console - which is good because those links were created by some spammer in Pakistan somewhere.

          I haven't yet submitted a disavow report to Google of well over 10K links because the list keeps growing every day with new backlinks that have been rerouted to a 404 page.

          I have asked Google to clarify and they put my question on their forum for an answer, which I'm still waiting for - so I thought I'd try my luck here.

          My question...

          If Moz does not match Google Search Console, and backlinks are important to results, how valid is the ranking that Moz creates to let me know how I'm doing in this competition and if I'm improving or not.

          If the goal is to get Google to pay attention and I use Moz to help me figure out how to do this, how can I do that if the backlink information isn't the same - by literally over 10 000 backlinks created by some spammer doing odd things...

          They've included the url from their deleted profile on my site with 100s of other urls, including Moz.com and are posting them everywhere with their preferred anchor text.

          Moz ranking considers the thousands of spam backlinks I can't get rid of and Google ignores them or disavows them. So isn't the rankings, data, and graphs apples and bananas?

          How can I know what my site's strength really is and if I'm improving or not if the data doesn't match?

          Complete SEO Novice

          Shannon Peel
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            Sailtripmallorca @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

            @BlueprintMarketing said in Backlinks on Moz not on Google Search Console:

            Google's John Mueller was answering questions around an old topic of Google showing only a sample of links in the link report in Google Search Console on Reddit. He said that generally, if the links are not shown in the tool, then they are "pretty irrelevant overall."

            The part "pretty irrelevant overall." is surprising. In my case I have links from German newspapers DR 60 , 43,42,58,67,74 to my website.
            There seems to be something else playing as news websites make sure theyre articles and pages get crawled all the time.
            I used Pingler, ping-omatic and prepostseo and pinged the Newswebsites that relate to my article. As well I made a [BS blogpage](link url) for a couple days where I link to all relevant websites where I have backlinks.
            At the moment I am waiting the see the results and will come back here to share.

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            • MarketAPeel
              MarketAPeel Subscriber @BlueprintMarketing last edited by MarketAPeel

              @BlueprintMarketing
              Thank you for this... it is helpful.

              I use the link list from Moz and others to help me find out which profiles and forum posts are spammers then I delete and 301 to a 404 page to ensure that URL is 404ed.

              I get too many a day and it is a waste of my time.

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              • BlueprintMarketing
                BlueprintMarketing last edited by

                Moz & other third-party tools have a much better method of displaying your actual backlinks going to a domain or URL.

                Google search console only displays a sample of known links, so remember it is not showing you all your backlinks or even. all of your data.

                Here are some helpful URLs

                "Google Search Console only displays a sample of known links, they update infrequently, and no preference to priority or weight is given."

                https://www.seroundtable.com/google-link-tool-sample-data-13636.html

                Google's John Mueller was answering questions around an old topic of Google showing only a sample of links in the link report in Google Search Console on Reddit. He said that generally, if the links are not shown in the tool, then they are "pretty irrelevant overall."

                https://www.seroundtable.com/google-links-search-console-irrelevant-27342.html

                https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-search-console-guide/209318/

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                • DonnaNelson
                  DonnaNelson last edited by

                  Having just launched a new site, a couple of spam sites (xxx .pw sites - used to try to extract your passwords) are already on Google's radar. When I click the link in my Moz backlink profile the website instantly redirected to app.private-check.com tool. Quickly, I got a message from Google that said something to the effect "Aren't you glad we blocked them from your passwords". These links are not in my GSC for this domain.

                  What would be really great is if Moz and other tool providers, could find these spam sites and filter them out based on what is and is not showing up in GSC. That would be worth paying for, yes?

                  🙂

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                  • TyreRunner
                    TyreRunner @MarketAPeel last edited by

                    @marketapeel right now were seeing most of the rubbish not coming through into search console, which hopefully means the specialists are correct 🙂 However, there is a few that are clearly spam still making it into search console which does have me wonder if it's affecting us for now. Google Search console is more like a magician's magic ball than actually being fully useful.

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                    • MarketAPeel
                      MarketAPeel Subscriber @TyreRunner last edited by MarketAPeel

                      @tyrerunner I have not found a solution. When I interviewed SEO specialists on my podcast, I asked them and they said Google would ignore them and not to worry - Which I can see when I look at the backlinks Google Search Console has.

                      The problem is all these SEO tools showing thousands of these backlinks and making it harder for me to use the tool efficiently.

                      I followed the backlinks and found I'm in good company in these lists of links, it's just too bad that the anchor text is wrong because some of those back links have a decent ranking.

                      I did go to some of the higher ranked sites and when appropriate, created my own content with links using the right anchor text in the hopes that the matching keywords would help make it clearer - but they have yet to show up on any of the SEO tools or Google.

                      I did have a few visits from Google looking for that service but I think they were from before I deleted the posts - so the keywords were there to match - I've since fixed that problem.

                      I deleted the posts on my site but the url doesn't disappear and the page it lands on was empty so I 301 the pages to a 404 telling visitors the site is about brand storytelling and linked to the different pages if they were interested. This 404 page was already developed for those times a page load messed up.

                      I asked Google - no one has answered me there.

                      I have offered to sell an ad page on my site to a company and 301 all the links to it. - Not sure if this is a good idea - but I'd like to benefit somehow

                      If you come up with a solution or a better way to deal with all this spam and still get good data out of Moz etc... please let me know.

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                      • TyreRunner
                        TyreRunner @MarketAPeel last edited by

                        @marketapeel We're having the exact same issue coming from India. Did you find a solution? my first thought was that google has perhaps registered these as known spam builders, but on the other hand Google Search Console isn't that great at the best of times and it could be it just takes weeks to show up.

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                          Link Building | | Adina Laura Matei
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                        • JCN-SBWD

                          Blog post outreach for backlinks

                          blog post outreach blog post backlinks guest blog posting in context link building content marketing

                          Hi all, My understanding of obtaining backlinks by way of blogpost outreach is that it's best to include several outbound links to related high domain websites within blog post copy (as well as a link to the website you're marketing, obviously) such as this post https://www.scoopearth.com/why-should-you-use-royalty-free-music-for-youtube-videos/ or this one https://small-bizsense.com/how-to-create-quality-content-for-your-business/. However, I've recently read a few articles that suggest that from a human perspective only having one clear link in the copy, such as this post https://www.clichemag.com/entertainment/movies/the-benefits-of-royalty-free-cinematic-music-for-your-videos/, increases the chance of the reader visiting the site in question. I guess the thinking is that if there's only one link to be clicked on it increases the chances of click-thru, as opposed to the reader possibly clicking on another external link that's only there because of current SEO advice. So is it best to follow SEO guidelines and include several outbound links within guest blog posts, or is it better to only have the one link to your client's site (to focus the readers attention on it)?

                          Link Building | | JCN-SBWD
                          0
                        • SolenneGINX

                          Google News and Discover down by a lot

                          google search console performance

                          Hi,
                          Could you help me understand why my website's Google News and Discover Performance dropped suddenly and drastically all of a sudden in November? numbers seem to pick up a little bit again but nowhere close what we used to see before then

                          Technical SEO | | SolenneGINX
                          0
                        • p4pakao

                          DA not increased as backlinks generated...

                          Hi,
                           I would like to discuss my issue as my site's some backlinks are generated but DA is still there. Can anyone make me understand the reason?

                          Link Building | | p4pakao
                          0
                        • The_Kiwi_Man

                          Sponsored posts against Google guidelines?

                          I'm a bit confused. Every blog I try to outreach on always give me a quote for a sponsored post. Isn't this against Google guidelines because you paying for a link technically even though your paying for a post? Do you guys buy sponsored posts? Should this be avoided? How do you outreach to a blog that offers sponsored posts? They can smell that you want a link from a mile away and give you a nice fat quote.

                          Link Building | | The_Kiwi_Man
                          1
                        • damon1212

                          Press Release Sites for Backlinks

                          OK, I read a previous thread about whether people found press release sites useful (specifically I am considering a reputable pay for release service). I understand the knock on press releases in this digital age (namely that no one reads them and arguably never did . . . ), but I was interested in moving the discussion in a different direction . . . Do press releases services really help a sites performance based on increased backlinking?  Is there a SEO benefit to PR services? My company is a local print company.  I've done quite a bit of research on my local competitors, and specifically for a couple products we would like to dominate.  The good news is that it looks like the hurdle would not be terribly high to really take over the web presence with a well planned and executed website/SEO campaign. My inclination is that for a relatively small company like mine (dealing with relatively small competitors) it WOULD benefit me to pay for the sheer number of backlinks a PR program would generate. The monthly cost is frankly about the same as the cost of this site, which OF COURSE I get value from (hey moderator, how about a couple extra MOZ points for that one!) Specifically, I am looking at this for myself, but feel free to expand the question to the broader topic.

                          Link Building | | damon1212
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