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        • EcommerceSite
          EcommerceSite last edited by

          I am working on an ecommerce site and I am going to add different views to the category pages. The views will all have different urls so I would like to add the rel="canonical" tag to them. Should I still add these pages to the sitemap?

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            RyanPurkey @EcommerceSite last edited by

            I would just title them according to their view type. Try to put your most informative words as close to the front as possible so that it's easy to read in browser tabs, for example: Red Widgets, All Widgets, <$25 Widgets... etc. Meta description could probably be a repeat of the title tag. Make the title as UX friendly as possible.

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              EcommerceSite @DirkC last edited by

              • What are your thoughts on title tag and meta description on these pages? The only thing that changes on these pages is how the item is displayed. Should I change the title tag and meta description even though they should never be the organic landing page?
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                EcommerceSite @RyanPurkey last edited by

                What are your thoughts on title tag and meta description on these pages? The only thing that changes on these pages is how the item is displayed. Should I change the title tag and meta description even though they should never be the organic landing page?

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                  DirkC @EcommerceSite last edited by

                  Yes, I would not put them in the sitemap. Main goal of a sitemap is to make it easier for bots to discover the different pages of the site. The pages that have a canonical url pointing to another page don't really need this, as you don't want the search engines to index them anyway.

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                    EcommerceSite @RyanPurkey last edited by

                    Since my preference is always to have people land on the page with thumbnails that is what I was thinking but wanted to double check. Thank you.

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                    • RyanPurkey
                      RyanPurkey @EcommerceSite last edited by

                      Based on how you're describing it, I'd leave them out of the sitemap.

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                        EcommerceSite @DirkC last edited by

                        These pages will be almost identical. They are category pages for ecommerce and the only difference is it will display all items and there will be no thumbnails. It sounds like you are saying not to put them in the sitemap in this instance?

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                          EcommerceSite @RyanPurkey last edited by

                          They are category pages for an ecommerce site. Currently we list the items 25 to a page with a thumbnail. The second view will be all of the items in a basic list view with no thumbnails. We have some categories with several hundred items and our users have requested a way to see them all on one page.

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                            DirkC last edited by

                            Hi,

                            Agree with the arguments of Ryan on the whether or not to put the canonical.

                            However, if you decide that these pages are almost identical, and that you will use a canonical, it has no use to put all the variations of these pages in the sitemap. However, you should add the canonical version to the sitemap.

                            It's not a big problem if these pages are in the sitemap, you'll just notice it webmaster tools a low % of indexed pages for this sitemap.

                            rgds,

                            Dirk

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                              RyanPurkey last edited by

                              Are the different views going to be substantially different pages or a reordering of products seen throughout each view?  If the latter is the case I wouldn't use rel="canonical" for each view.  If the pages are substantially different, like one is just displaying widgets, while the other is displaying widget maintenance tools, the having each of those pages as categorical sections to your store is worth it and worth being in the sitemap.

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