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Redirect to 'default' or English (/en) version of site?
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Hi Moz Community!
I'm trying to work through a thorny internationalization issue with the 'default' and English versions of our site.
We have an international set-up of:
- www.domain.com (in english)
- www.domain.com/en
- www.domain.com/en-gb
- www.domain.com/fr-fr
- www.domain.com/de-de and so on...
All the canonicals and HREFLANGs are set up, except the English language version is giving me pause.
If you visit www.domain.com, all of the internal links on that page (due to the current way our cms works) point to www.domain.com/en/ versions of the pages. Content is identical between the two versions.
The canonical on, say, www.domain.com/en/products points to www.domain.com/products. Feels like we're pulling in two different directions with our internationalization signals. Links go one way, canonical goes another.
Three options I can see:
- Remove the /en/ version of the site. 301 all the /en versions of pages to /. Update the hreflangs to point the EN language users to the / version.
- **Redirect the / version of the site to /en. **The reverse of the above.
- **Keep both the /en and the / versions, update the links on / version. **Make it so that visitors to the / version of the site follow links that don't take them to the /en site.
It feels like the /en version of the site is redundant and potentially sending confusing signals to search engines (it's currently a bit of a toss-up as to which version of a page ranks). I'm leaning toward removing the /en version and redirecting to the / version.
It would be a big step as currently - due to the internal linking - about 40% of our traffic goes through the /en path.
Anything to be aware of? Any recommendations or advice would be much appreciated.
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Confusing Search Engine by sending two different signal about one URL. You must keep it simple by applying 301 redirect from domain.com/en to domain.com. Domain.com/en version is little confusing for user as well, they will think that domain.com has a different default Language.
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For me redirect will be the right way.
Why? Because in another way you will have a duplicate content issue. Remember yoursite.com and www.yoursite.com will be indexed as differents pages.
Have the same Issue in the past. And I resolved the problem
1- redirections
2- setting the right URL on Search Console
(Search Console > Site Settings > Preferred domain)
3- Submit a sitemap for every language
(Search Console > Sitemaps)
4- And Finally config the language on search console
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