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Link Juice + multiple links pointing to the same page
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Scenario
The website has a menu consisting of 4 linksHome | Shoes | About Us | Contact Us
Additionally within the body content we write about various shoe types. We create a link with the anchor text "Shoes" pointing to www.mydomain.co.uk/shoes
In this simple example, we have 2 instances of the same link pointing to the same url location.
We have 4 unique links.
In total we have 5 on page links.Question
How many links would Google count as part of the link juice model?
How would the link juice be weighted in terms of percentages?
If changing the anchor text in the body content to say "fashion shoes" have a different impact?Any other advise or best practice would be appreciated.
Thanks Mark
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Hi Remus & Kurt,
Thank you for your advise.
Mark
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Remus's answer is good. I would add to that that Google has their first link filter. If you have two links pointing from page A to page B, Google only passes link authority (pagerank) and reputation (keywords in the anchor text and relevant surrounding text) through the first link that appears in the code. The second link does not pass anything. So, whatever the anchor text of the first link in the code is, that's the anchor text Google is going to use (Remus is right that anchor text has become less important).
The second link does, however, dilute the amount of pagerank passed. So, like Remus pointed out, each link in your scenario only passes 20% of the pagerank. Since Google ignores the second link to the shoe page, that 20% of pagerank does not get passed. I'm not sure if it stays on the page or just gets lost.
So, what does this all mean? From an SEO standpoint, you want the link with the targeted keyword to be first in the code if you have more than one link to a page. Also, you don't really want to have two links to the same page on that one page. Now, that's from an SEO perspective. From a user perspective, it may make perfect sense to have that second link and the page may convert better. So, you'd just have to decide which is more important...and it's probably the user perspective that's more important.
Kurt Steinbrueck
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Hi Mark, really good questions.
- How many links would Google count as part of the link juice model?
There are a lot of opinions about this subject and there is no clear answer (it's really hard to test). Some time ago Google removed the effect of "nofollow" attribute for internal links, to cut the advantage SEO's gained by "pagerank sculpting". I think they did this so that search engine optimizers don't have a big advantage over standard websites. My personal opinion is that in terms of link juice lost Google would count 5, but the page benefiting won't get double the value. I think Google would only count the advantages of one of those links, whichever the best (probably the one in content. But on the other side, the link juice lost is not so important. The rest of the pages won't necessarily rank for popular terms.
I think that in-content links get way more advantages than just the "juice" and anchor text. The neighboring text is also important, the fact that it's in a block of text it's also important. Also it brings value to the users, who, might want to see all the shoes models when reading about them. I think you should definitely use this approach but just make sure you don't take it to an extreme.
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20% to each link, but the shoes page won't get 20x2 from those 2 duplicate, maybe it will get 25 + some other advantages (personal oppinion!)
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Changing anchor text had some effect in the past, but recently anchor text has less and less importance. It probably still has value. It's still an important ranking factor for 2013, and I would use it if I was you. But I would bring it to a new level. I would also think about the words in the context of the link. Try to link from all the relevant sections of the websites, and as you point to the shoes page from different contexts, naturally, the anchor text will change. For example you could link through our "shoe collection" from an article which compares between your shoes and competitor shoes.
I wrote an article for YouMoz a few years ago, some concepts might be a bit outdated because the ranking factors changed a lot since then. However it might give you some ideas to explore from a new perspective
-> An Intelligent Way to Plan Your Internal Linking Structure
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