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          Found last edited by

          Hey

          I have recently come across an issue with several of a sites urls being seen as a 404 by bots such as Xenu, SEOMoz, Google Web Tools etc. The funny thing is, the pages exist and display fine.

          This happens on many of the pages which use the Modx CMS, but the index is fine. The wordpress blog in /blog/ all works fine.

          The only thing I can think of is that I have a conflict in the htaccess, but troubleshooting this is difficult, any tool I have found online seem useless.

          Have tried to rollback to previous versions but still does not work.

          Anyone had any experience of similar issues?

          Many thanks

          K.

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          • OptimaD
            OptimaD @RyanKent last edited by

            FYI, we finally found our error. The short URL turned out to be the same name as the folder (photo-gallery) so once this was changed, wordpress was able to access the correct path. A bit of custom javascript had to be amended as well, but that was limited to our custom code. Using your web-sniffer.net link we were able to test immediately and fix it fairly quickly. Thank you for your help!

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            • seo-wanna-bs
              seo-wanna-bs @RyanKent last edited by

              That's true Ryan I guess it is coding related really.

              Issues like this are a real pain in the ass. And most people don't even check WMT to realise the issues exist. TBH, I don't check as often as I should.

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              • RyanKent
                RyanKent @seo-wanna-bs last edited by

                I agree with you Paul.

                As you pointed out one possible cause is a CMS-related issue which I would refer to as "coding" meaning something in the code which was used to present the website. Perhaps there is a better way to phrase it but nothing comes to mind at the moment.

                Another possibility you mentioned is Litespeed which would be a server-side issue directly. Either way, it is a legitimate issue which should be addressed.

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                • seo-wanna-bs
                  seo-wanna-bs last edited by

                  FWIW, I don't think it's a coding issue. If it were coding, it would either show a 200OK or it would show a 404. It wouldn't sometimes serve a 404.

                  If you're using Litespeed, I'd guarantee that is the issue and if you're using Joomla, it's another prime culprit.

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                  • seo-wanna-bs
                    seo-wanna-bs last edited by

                    Please keep in mind, that 404 error does not mean the page doesn't exist. It means your server, is sending a response code to indicate that it doesn't exist.

                    When I installed Litespeed on my server, this issue happened over and over again.

                    I believe Joomla for example, has some kind of security module that serves a 404 if a single IP requests a page too many times. I remember running SEOFrog on a friends Joomla site and tons of 404's were showing up.

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                      Found @RyanKent last edited by

                      Dev team are looking into it, must be quite a complex htaccess issue. Will get to the bottom of it this week and post any findings.

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                      • OptimaD
                        OptimaD @RyanKent last edited by

                        Thanks Ryan! I will get it looked at...Sue

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                        • RyanKent
                          RyanKent @OptimaD last edited by

                          @DentalID, the same reply I offered to Guy applies for you as well. This is an SEO issue which does need to be fixed. Something on your end is causing the page to show with a 403 response code. You really need a programmer to get in there and determine the root cause of the issue. You could try asking your web host if you have managed hosting, but this level of assistance would normally be outside the support of managed hosting.

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                          • RyanKent
                            RyanKent last edited by

                            Guy,

                            In looking at the page this appears to be a legitimate problem. Your server settings allow you to present a page with any header code you wish. You can 301 a page but still present the page with a 200 code if you want. Presently it appears the page is being presented fine but your server is offering a 404 header code.

                            I can't tell the actual source of the problem other then to say it appears to be on your end and should be fixed. I originally looked at the code with the MOZbar but then checked independently with another tool as well. http://web-sniffer.net/

                            All tools show a 404 header code for the page. This response code is generated by your web server.

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                            • OptimaD
                              OptimaD last edited by

                              We are having a similar problem with this URL:  http://dentalimplantsportland.com/photo-gallery/  and also the following locations:

                              http://cosmeticdentistportland.net/photo-gallery/

                              http://dentalveneersportland.com/photo-gallery/

                              SEO Moz  and Google webmaster tools show it as a 403 error but the pages display fine. I am not able to tell if this is really a problem for SEO or if we should reconstruct this gallery system and would really love your input.

                              This is Wordpress with a Spry gallery...

                              Thanks so much!

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                                Found @RyanKent last edited by

                                It is just a small affiliate site I am looking at - this page creates a 404.

                                http://www.insure-uk.com/post-office-car-insurance.html

                                Currently testing on some beta servers. Hopefully should fix soon as otherwise it will lose indexation.

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                                • AlanMosley
                                  AlanMosley last edited by

                                  I also see this now and again, but next crawl they fix themselfs. i assume robots can not always reach page for a number of reasons

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                                  • RyanKent
                                    RyanKent last edited by

                                    Can you offer an example of a URL which is causing this problem?

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                                    • Netboost
                                      Netboost last edited by

                                      I have had the same issues, I think it is often the bot's problem

                                      Just to be certain check your links are correct and manually test them. Also ensure your sitemap is up to date and that you are not blocking the crawlers with metarobots, robots.txt, or some weird stuff in htaccess.

                                      I have found that renaming pages or moving them will often cause 404 issues with crawlers

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